Curse

Blackest Rose · Aug 17, 2007, 05:42 PM // 17:42

Anet,
I do very little trading - mostly just merchanting but the horror threads are making even me just a little bit scared of doing anything.

I mean someone is being reported as being banned for trading 34 linen!

I know you've said it should be obvious and not recieve "stolen goods" aka duped goods but it's not always obvious I'm afraid.

Anet - Please come out with an offical "All Clear" statement in some shape or form so that we can resume trading without having to wonder stupid things like "will buying 250 bone ban my account!!! oh noes!"

I suggest that the statement/post should cover the problem tackled, actions taken and confirm that all actions taken are now ok and you consider the problem closed.

This would allow everyone who has in no way been involved with any shady activity to breathe a sign of relief and resume trading normally.

If anyone agree's and would like to sign this petition request please do so below to keep it high on the forum page.

lucifer_uk · Aug 17, 2007, 05:55 PM // 17:55

This is why all these scaremongering threads need closing on sight.

Most players have traded all the way through the dupe wars and continue to trade with no bans.

Ghost Omel · Aug 17, 2007, 06:01 PM // 18:01

i agree you scared dont post it write to anet support others dont need useless posts and petitions likethis which will make no or little diference

JGaff · Aug 17, 2007, 06:09 PM // 18:09

I think most of the player base is overdoing this. Unless some guy/gal comes up to you and hints he might be pawning illicit stuff cheap, you'll be alright. So long as there is no reasonable justification for a ban (Buying 20 Ecto at 1k ea), you'll be okay. If you haven't been doing anything wrong, why worry?

Gaile Gray · Aug 17, 2007, 06:25 PM // 18:25

Hey, all,

Yes, trading is just fine, now. We had several people working on the account investigations, but at this point we feel that the matter has been fully dealt with, and legitimate trading should be A-Ok.

Now, if someone sidles up to you in a dark alleyway and offers you an armbrace for the bargain basement price of 44 gold pieces, you might way to run in the opposite direction.

But seriously, unless we find another account that was involved in the actual duping, in the receipt of ridiculous amounts of items, or that was engaged in clearly bogus "trades," trading for items of all kinds is good to go now.

Blackest Rose · Aug 17, 2007, 06:39 PM // 18:39

Thank you Gaile!

Clear and to the point.

two x knives style · Aug 17, 2007, 06:49 PM // 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Hey, all,

Yes, trading is just fine, now. We had several people working on the account investigations, but at this point we feel that the matter has been fully dealt with, and legitimate trading should be A-Ok.

Now, if someone sidles up to you in a dark alleyway and offers you an armbrace for the bargain basement price of 44 gold pieces, you might way to run in the opposite direction.

But seriously, unless we find another account that was involved in the actual duping, in the receipt of ridiculous amounts of items, or that was engaged in clearly bogus "trades," trading for items of all kinds is good to go now.

Would receiving free items from friends and guildmates fall under legitimate trading?

Ghost Omel · Aug 17, 2007, 06:53 PM // 18:53

so if my guild member offers me a rare item for cheap price significaly cheap price i will be a suspect?
For example a bone dragon for 20K?
will this be suspicious even if the trade is pure with nothing else involved?

Witchblade · Aug 17, 2007, 07:48 PM // 19:48

U cant get a ban cauz of ppl not aware of prices ^^

MrTickle · Aug 17, 2007, 08:58 PM // 20:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

...in the receipt of ridiculous amounts of items,....

I have loads of materials in readiness for EotN armour (NONE of which bought from other players or duped). I guess I'd better not trade them then for fear of the ban stick that seems to thrash willy nilly

Angiolina · Aug 17, 2007, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Hey, all,

But seriously, unless we find another account that was involved in the actual duping, in the receipt of ridiculous amounts of items, or that was engaged in clearly bogus "trades," trading for items of all kinds is good to go now.

thanks for the clarifications, but now all the community need the restore of reconnect option, just because some of us ( me too ) have bad internet connections and it's just impossible to do any big adventure, like more than 1 hour.

many many thanks

Enko · Aug 17, 2007, 09:52 PM // 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTickle

I have loads of materials in readiness for EotN armour (NONE of which bought from other players or duped). I guess I'd better not trade them then for fear of the ban stick that seems to thrash willy nilly

i think gaile was more referring to the ridiculous amounts of high priceditems such as 250 armbraces at one time or more . ..

NekoZ · Aug 17, 2007, 10:41 PM // 22:41

Just whatever you guys do, do NOT accept 34 linen from a guildmate!

VitisVinifera · Aug 17, 2007, 11:21 PM // 23:21

despite what Gaile says, people are still getting banned, for accepting or trading for items much smaller in number and value than armbraces.

It's definitely not fine to trade with strangers right now.

lucifer_uk · Aug 17, 2007, 11:38 PM // 23:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

despite what Gaile says, people are still getting banned, for accepting or trading for items much smaller in number and value than armbraces.

It's definitely not fine to trade with strangers right now.

Evidence please

Kthnxbai

VitisVinifera · Aug 18, 2007, 12:42 AM // 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_uk

Evidence please

Kthnxbai

the other thread where people are getting banned for accepting victory tokens and linens

Loviatar · Aug 18, 2007, 01:00 AM // 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

the other thread where people are getting banned for accepting victory tokens and linens

DUPED TOKENS

the tokens in question were DUPED and the person was cleared and the account was unlocked

it does change things a wee bit
39 tokens

39 DUPED tokens

I pwnd U · Aug 18, 2007, 01:02 AM // 01:02

Uh oh, I hope my guildmate doesn't get banned. He is a good friend of mine in RL and was just getting into the game so I gave him 250 Tanned Hides, 8 Steel Ingots, and 5k to help him get his armor. All for free... that would not be fair to him to get banned for something as trivial as that. Hopefully this whole duping incident does not stop people from trading.

VitisVinifera · Aug 18, 2007, 01:03 AM // 01:03

yes loviatar......but if a person can't buy a measley 39 tokens (net value a few hundred gold or so) without having to worry about if they were duped or not, what is safe?

that's the point.

Loviatar · Aug 18, 2007, 01:15 AM // 01:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

yes loviatar......but if a person can't buy a measley 39 tokens (net value a few hundred gold or so) without having to worry about if they were duped or not, what is safe?

that's the point.

they did not buy them

they were duped

the 549 non duped free ones were not even noticed

it specified in the support unlock message it was a zero return value transaction involving duped content.

what they did was lock down everything involved with duping (notice that the other 549 free unduped tokens were not mentioned) and keeping most of the duped high value items under lock.

now they are sorting out the innocent which did not even miss the festival